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Meeting_2007-10-15

Meeting setup

  • Date: 15.10.2007
  • Time: 09.30 Norw. time
  • Place: Internet
  • Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat/Skype

Agenda

  1. Opening, agenda review
  2. Reviewing the task list from last week
  3. Documentation - divvun.no
  4. Corpus gathering
  5. Corpus infrastructure
  6. Infrastructure
  7. Linguistics
  8. name lexicon infrastructure
  9. Spellers
  10. Other issues
  11. Summary, task lists
  12. Closing

1. Opening, agenda review, participants

Opened at 09: 47.

Present: Børre, Per-Eric,Sjur, Thomas, Tomi

Absent: Risten, Trond

Agenda accepted as is.

2. Updated task status since last meeting

Børre

  • move Steinar's error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
    • not done
  • Hunspell lexicon conversion
    • made a test setup, to see which words and wordforms are recognized
    • nouns, adjs and verbs are converted okay'ishly
  • update Bugzilla to 3.0.x
    • done
  • begin adding support for the sami languages in OpenOffice.org
    • not done
  • add texts from Torkel Rasmussen
    • done
  • fix bugs!
    • assigned a corpus bug to Saara

Ilona

  • lexicalise missing words
  • add smj proper nouns
  • other smj tasks

Maaren

  • lexicalise actio compounds

Per-Eric

  • expand the smj typos list
    • worked and still working
  • add missing smj words
    • worked and still working
  • lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list
    • worked and still working
  • fix bugs!
    • fixed some

Risten

  • write text to go on the CD cover
  • set up CD-printing printer

Saara

  • add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
  • Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)

Sjur

  • document the AppleScript testing tool
    • not done
  • document the testing procedures
    • done
  • work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration
    • not done
  • test correct-type markup with latest enhancements
    • not done, but discussed markup nesting with Saara
  • get command line hyphenator for automated testing of the hyph-lexicons
    • offer received, signed, and we are waiting for the delivery - hopefully this week
  • collect list of problematic words for the hyphenator
    • started
  • make available InDesign hyphenator to Min Áigi/Davvi Girji
    • done
  • document the InDesign tools
    • not done
  • add hyphenation testing
    • not done
  • fix bugs!
  • other tasks:
    • improved Mac uninstaller for MS Office tools by making it into a standard application, and also by completely removing all installed files.

Thomas

  • sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
  • begun
  • add smj proper nouns
  • added
  • fix bugs!
  • worked

Tomi

  • Hunspell lexicon conversion
    • not done
  • sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
    • not done
  • fix oslolaš bug in smj ( Tomi)
    • done
  • fix bugs!
    • fixed

Trond

  • sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
  • fix bugs!.

3. Documentation

The new Bugzilla is good: )

TODO:

  • update Bugzilla (Børre)
    • done

4. Corpus gathering

Sjur discussed error markup nesting with Saara, she will add nesting possiblities to the xml conversion tool.

TODO:

  • test correct-type markup with latest enhancements (Sjur)
  • add texts from Torkel Rasmussen ( Børre)
    • done

5. Corpus infrastructure

Nothing.

6. Infrastructure

Speller testing is now fixed, and won't change.

7. Linguistics

North Sámi

No real issues at the moment.

Lule Sámi

Tomi has fixed the smj oslolaš isssue.

We still have some missing baseforms asides names. These should be checked.

TODO:

  • lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list, but check against the pdf original where in doubt (Per-Eric)
  • sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources, and increase smj coverage (Trond, Thomas, Svenne)
  • add proper nouns (Thomas, Ilona)
  • look at missing baseforms (Thomas)

8. Name lexicon infrastructure

This sub-project needs to get up and running soon. Mainly Sjur's task.

Decisions made in Tromsø can be found in this meeting memo.

TODO:

  1. set up Tomcat and risten.no on the G5 again (Sjur, Børre)
  2. fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
  3. finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
  4. test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  5. make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
  6. convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files ( Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
  7. implement data synchronisation between risten.no and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
  8. start to use the xml file as source file
  9. clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, Maaren, linguists)
  10. merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
  11. publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
  12. add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
  13. add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils ( linguists)

9. Proofing tools

Hunspell

Sami languages are not supported in OpenOffice.org, until that is fixed we will have to do the same tricks we apply in Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac.

Børre has a UTF-8 issue with reading LexC files in the java code.

TODO:

  1. Begin adding support for the sami languages in OpenOffice.org (Børre)
  2. Hunspell lexicon conversion (Tomi, Børre)
    1. fix Unicode bug in Hunspell conversion java code (Tomi, Børre)
    2. add closed POSes by adding a new output format to the present PLX conversion code (Tomi, Børre)
    3. add build and compilation instructions (Børre)
    4. release an internal alpha for testing (Børre)
    5. add hunspell testing to the make file (Sjur)
    6. debug and fix remaining conversion issues (Børre, Tomi)

Testing

Spelling Error Markup

TODO:

  • Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) (Saara)
  • move Steinar's error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original ( Børre, Kimme)
  • add nested error markup to xml conversion (Saara)
  • test new and nested error markup (Sjur)

Automated testing

The infrastructure is now fixed for speller testing, hyphenation testing still coming.

TODO:

  • document the AppleScript testing tool (Sjur)
  • document the testing procedures (Sjur)
    • done
  • add hyphenation testing

Lexicon conversion to the PLX format

Open issues based on test results: smj - 489, 506, vissa, 536; sme - 380, 397, 408, 419, 425, 426, 431, 449, 452, 461, 489, 522, 524, 525, 529, 535, 536, 542.

TODO:

  • fix oslolaš type bug in smj ( Tomi)
    • done

InDesign tools

The beta was sent to Min Áigi and Davvi Girji.

We now need to expand testing for InDesign. The first task is to install it on more computers.

TODO:

  • make available InDesign hyphenator to Min Áigi/Davvi Girji ( Sjur)
  • document the InDesign tools (Sjur)
  • add hyphenation testing (Sjur)
  • buy InDesign CS3: one Mac upgrade, one Mac full, one Windows (Børre)

Hyphenators

There are some hyphenation errors we need to debug.

We should look into the possibility of generating pattern-based hyphenation for OOo. It shouldn't be too hard, or require too much work, but needs investigation.

To check for bad hyphenation: open a document in word, set the correct language, turn automatic hyphenation on, and change the layout to 4 columns. Then read through the document to check for bad hyphenation.

TODO:

  • get command line hyphenator (Sjur)
    • waiting for it
  • collect list of problematic words for the hyphenator (Thomas, Per-Eric)

Beta release

TODO:

  • add note and download link to front page (Tomi)
  • translate beta 2 download note on front page (Thomas, Sjur)

Release version

The CD cover etc. will be worked on by John-Marcus Kuhmunen, and will follow the SD design rules. He is now waiting for the text to be put on the CD cover and other places.

TODO:

  • write text to go on the CD cover (Risten)
  • set up CD-printing printer (Risten)

10. Other

Corpus contracts

Delayed till after final release.

TODO:

  • publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta ( Sjur)

Bug fixing

When fixing bugs, record the version number containing the fix in the Bugzilla bug report, such that for each bug, we know exactly when it should have been fixed, in what file(s) and what version.

56 open Divvun/Disamb bugs (23 of these 56 are speller-related bugs, 33 are other bugs), and 23 risten.no bugs

11. Next meeting, closing

The next meeting is 22.10.2007, 09: 30 Norwegian time.

The meeting was closed at 10: 47.

Appendix - task lists for the next week

Boerre

iCal

  • move Steinar's error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
  • begin adding support for the sami languages in OpenOffice.org
  • set up Tomcat and risten.no on the G5 again
  • fix Unicode bug in Hunspell conversion java code
  • add closed POSes to Hunspell speller
  • add build and compilation instructions for Hunspell
  • release an internal Hunspell alpha for testing
  • buy InDesign CS3: one Mac upgrade, one Mac full, one Windows
  • fix bugs!

Ilona

iCal

  • lexicalise missing words
    • Will I have new missing lists to do?
  • add smj proper nouns
  • other smj tasks

Maaren

  • lexicalise actio compounds

Per-Eric

iCal

  • lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list
  • collect list of problematic words for the hyphenator
  • fix bugs!

Risten

iCal

  • write text to go on the CD cover
  • set up CD-printing printer

Saara

iCal

  • add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
  • Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)
  • add nested error markup to xml conversion

Sjur

iCal

  • document the AppleScript testing tool
  • work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration
  • set up Tomcat and risten.no on the G5 again
  • test new and nested error markup
  • get command line hyphenator for automated testing of the hyph-lexicons
  • document the InDesign tools
  • add hyphenation testing
  • add hunspell testing
  • translate beta 2 download note on front page
  • fix bugs!

Thomas

iCal

  • sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
  • add smj proper nouns
  • look at missing baseforms, smj
  • check for bad hyphenation
  • collect list of problematic words for the hyphenator
  • translate beta 2 download note on front page
  • fix bugs!

Tomi

iCal

  • Hunspell lexicon conversion
  • sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
  • add note and download link to front page
  • fix Unicode bug in Hunspell conversion java code
  • add closed POSes to Hunspell speller
  • fix bugs!

Trond

iCal

  • sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
  • fix bugs!.