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Meeting_2007-06-25

Meeting setup

  • Date: 25.06.2007
  • Time: 09.30 Norw. time
  • Place: Internet
  • Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat/Skype

Agenda

  1. Opening, agenda review
  2. Reviewing the task list from last week
  3. Documentation - divvun.no
  4. Corpus gathering
  5. Corpus infrastructure
  6. Infrastructure
  7. Linguistics
  8. name lexicon infrastructure
  9. Spellers
  10. Other issues
  11. Summary, task lists
  12. Closing

1. Opening, agenda review, participants

Opened at 10: 49.

Present: Maaren, Per-Eric, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi, Trond

Absent: Børre, Saara, Steinar

Agenda accepted as is.

2. Updated task status since last meeting

Børre

  • add sma texts to the corpus repository
  • run all known spelling errors in the prooftest corpus through the speller
  • add extraction of all known spelling errors in the regular corpus (not the prooftest corpus), and check that they are properly corrected
  • update and fix our documentation and infrastructure as Steinar finds problem areas - low priority
  • study the Hunspell formalism in detail
  • follow-up contact with Davvi Girji
  • install larger disks, new RAM on the G5
  • update/check installed file list and paths for Windows
  • study the Hunspell formalism in detail
  • fix bugs!

Maaren

  • lexicalise actio compounds
    • done some
  • Manually mark speller test documents for typos
    • done some

Per-Eric

  • expand the smj typos list
    • work and still working
  • add missing smj words
    • work and still working
  • contact media in Sweden about the beta release
    • I do my best, but my contacts haven't called me back yet

Saara

  • add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
  • Try to add files with Lars to the corpus interface.
  • fix bugs!

Sjur

  • run all known spelling errors in the corpus through the speller
    • depending on speller test bench improvements
  • document the AppleScript testing tool
    • not done
  • integrate regression self tests with the make file
  • improve speller test bench
    • typos-like tests from correct-files now working - very useful!
  • integrate the ccat speller testing options in the make file
    • the first one done - typos-like testing on correct-doc
  • fix internet setup for Per-Eric's satelite modem
    • nothing new
  • look over the Bugzilla status mails
    • not done
  • ask Xerox for a commercial lisense for the xfst tools on the G5
    • not done
  • check with Sámi publishing houses whether support for CS2 is still needed
    • done except for Iđut
  • resend the press release to some channels in Sweden, Finland and Norway
    • will do this in another way
  • publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta
    • not done
  • study the Hunspell formalism in detail
    • not done
  • fix bugs!

Steinar

  • Beta testing: Align manually (shorter texts)
  • Manually mark speller test texts for typos (making them into gold standards), add the texts to the orig/catalogue
  • Complete the semantic sets in sme-dis.rle
  • missing lists
  • fix bugs!

Thomas

  • work with compounding
    • a little bit
  • Lack of lowering before hyphen: Twol rewrite.
    • yes, fixed at last!
  • smj: öä not accepted, only øæ (except for lexicalised names)
    • done
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
    • not done
  • add normativity issues to our normativity document
    • all the time
  • test new speller for actios of 3-sybbable verbs and adverbs of 3-s adjs.
    • not done
  • fix bugs!
    • much bug-fixing done last week

Tomi

  • make PLX conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file
    • not done
  • integrate the ccat speller testing options in the Makefile
    • not done
  • first part of multiword expressions not accepted
    • should be - needs testing
  • open up compounding for all actios
    • not done
  • contact Finnish institutions about the speller beta release
    • contacted some
  • study the Hunspell formalism in detail
    • yes
  • add Hunspell data generation/conversion
    • started
  • fix bugs!
  • other

Trond

  • Work on the web corpus issues
    • Done some, mainly redoing parallel texts.
  • update the smj proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt
    • Split and redone the propernoun lexicon.
  • fix bugs!.
    • Looked at them, at least.

3. Documentation

TODO:

  • write form to request corpus user account (Børre, Sjur, Trond)
  • document how to apply for access to closed corpus, and details on the corpus and its use in general (Børre, Sjur, Trond)
  • correct and improve it based on feedback from Steinar ( Børre)

4. Corpus gathering

Sjur spoke with Solvår Knutsen at Árran, Per-Eric will follow up. Hopefully this will result in more smj texts this summer. Sjur also discussed with Filip Mikkelsen about getting texts from Bahko, and it is ok with them. What is left to do is to agree on the practical details.

TODO:

  • sme texts: no new additions, fix corpus errors during this month ( Børre, Trond, Saara)
  • missing nob parallel texts should be added if such holes are found ( Børre, Trond)
  • Go through the list of missing or errouneous nob texts, based upon Saara's perfect list (Børre, Trond)
  • add sma texts to the corpus repository (Børre)

5. Corpus infrastructure

Nothing this week either.

6. Infrastructure

TODO:

  • update and fix our documentation and infrastructure as Steinar finds problem areas (Børre)
    • working on this one
  • fix internet setup for Per-Eric's satelite modem (Sjur)
    • this influences iChat, SEE sharing, and ARD connetions

7. Linguistics

North Sámi

TODO:

  • lexicalise actio compounds. Example: vuolggasadji vs. vuolginsadji ( Maaren)
    • possibly turn on free compounding as part of the PLX conversions (ie free compounding in the spellers, but not in the analyzers/transducers)
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  • open up compounding for all actios (Tomi)

Compounding of actors and actios of transitive verbs

The following lexicons needs the specified compounding tags to be applied to all entries:

LEXICON ACTORTV !+SgNomCmp +SgGenCmp +PlGenCmp +SgLeft +SgNomLeft +SgGenLeft +PlGenLeft

LEXICON BOAHTINTV  ! Long compound-forms
 +N+Sg+Nom: K ;
 +N+SgCmp: R ; !+SgCmp +SgLeft +SgNomLeft +SgGenLeft +PlGenLeft

Lule Sámi

TODO:

  • refine smj proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt ( Thomas, Trond)
  • ä-æ in speller (Thomas, Sjur)
  • lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list, but check against the pdf original where in doubt (Per-Eric)
    • still about 2800 words to lexicalise
  • add normativity issues to our normativity document (Thomas)
  • actios of 3-syllable verbs must be checked in the next speller of their lexicon names. Now the names are changed, and it should be fixed now, needs to be tested in the new speller
  • adverbs of 3-syllable adjectives must be tested in the next speller

8. Name lexicon infrastructure

Decisions made in Tromsø can be found in this meeting memo.

TODO:

  1. fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
  2. finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
  3. test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: ( Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  4. make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
  5. convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files ( Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
  6. implement data synchronisation between risten.no and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
  7. start to use the xml file as source file
  8. clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, Maaren, linguists)
  9. merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
  10. publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
  11. add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
  12. add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils ( linguists)

9. Spellers

OOo spellers

Børre, Tomi had multiple sessions on this in Drag.

TODO:

  • add Hunspell data conversion to the lexc2xspell (Tomi - after the PLX data generation is finished)
  • study the Hunspell formalism in detail (Børre, Tomi)

Testing

Spelling Error Markup

Sjur added documentation about the procedure.

TODO:

  • Manually mark test texts for typos (Maaren, Steinar)
  • Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not) (Saara)

Testing tools

Sjur is trying to get the ccat typos option integrated in the test targets in the Makefile. Hopefully done soon.

TODO:

  • document the AppleScript testing tool (Sjur)
  • improve speller test bench (Sjur)
    • integrate the ccat speller testing options in the Makefile (Sjur, Tomi)
      • working on it

Regression tests

Nothing new

TODO:

  • add extraction of all known spelling errors in the corpus (not the prooftest corpus), and check that they are properly corrected ( Børre, Sjur)
  • test the typos.txt list, and check that all entries are properly corrected ( Børre, Sjur)
  • consider how to do a regression self-test, ie, how to test the full wordlist (Børre, Sjur)
    • extract all the base forms in the lexicon, and run them through the speller
    • extract all SUB-marked entries, and run them through the lexicon
      • integrate these in the make file (Sjur)

Lexicon conversion to the PLX format

TODO:

  • install larger disks, new RAM on the G5 when they arrive (Børre)
    • done
  • ask for mklex for Linux (victorio) from Polderland (Sjur)
    • offer received
  • ask Xerox for a commercial lisense for the xfst tools on the G5 (Sjur)
  • add compounding restrictions to the PLX conversion (Tomi)
    • done and tested - some errors found, they're added to Bugzilla

Public Beta follow-up

TODO:

  • file list in Windows not complete (Børre, Sjur)
    • done
  • test smj on typos (Børre)
    • tried, but got an error, thus skipped. Needs to be checked now.
    • error reported to Saara
      • fixed
    • smj typos tested, many errors found in the typos list itself
      • errors in the typos.txt should be fixed (Per-Eric)
    • rerun the test (Sjur)
  • celebrate
    • done
  • resend the press release to some channels in Sweden, Finland and Norway
    • Other finnish institutions to contact could be:
      • Samiradio (Tomi) - they're planning to make a report, have contacted Maaren
      • Sami parliament (Tomi)
      • Oulu - giellagas (Tomi) - talked to some people
      • Lapin yliopisto - Rantala (Trond)
      • Helsingin yliopisto - Seurujärvi-Kari (Tomi)
      • KOTUS (Sjur)
      • Citysaamit (Tomi)
      • Oulun saamelaiset (Tomi)

10. Other

Summer vacation

When are we taking it? Please fill in the table below:

Name Starting Ending
Børre 25.6. 8.7.
Maaren 9.7. 10.8.
Per-Eric 9.7. 20.7.
Saara 2.7 3.8
Sjur x|x
Thomas 9.7. 12.8.
Tomi 9.7. 5.8.
Trond 2.7. 12.8, but working at the end

Divvun people also need to send the dates to Julie Eira or Ellen Mienna Guttorm.

Corpus contracts

TODO:

  • publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta ( Sjur)

Bug fixing

When fixing bugs, record the version number containing the fix in the Bugzilla bug report, such that for each bug, we know exactly when it should have been fixed, in what file(s) and what version.

56 open Divvun/Disamb bugs (21 of these 56 are speller bugs, 35 are general bugs), and 23 risten.no bugs

TODO:

  • look over the Bugzilla status mails (Børre)

11. Next meeting, closing

The next meeting is 2.7.2007, 9: 30 Norwegian time.

The meeting was closed at 11: 28.

Appendix - task lists for the next week

Boerre

iCal

  • add sma texts to the corpus repository
  • run all known spelling errors in the prooftest corpus through the speller
  • add extraction of all known spelling errors in the regular corpus (not the prooftest corpus), and check that they are properly corrected
  • update and fix our documentation and infrastructure as Steinar finds problem areas - low priority
  • study the Hunspell formalism in detail
  • follow-up contact with Davvi Girji
  • fix bugs!

Maaren

iCal

  • lexicalise actio compounds
  • Manually mark speller test documents for typos

Per-Eric

iCal

  • expand the smj typos list
  • add missing smj words
  • fix errors in smj/src/typos.txt

Saara

iCal

  • add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
  • Try to add files with Lars to the corpus interface.
  • fix bugs!

Sjur

iCal

  • run all known spelling errors in the corpus through the speller
  • document the AppleScript testing tool
  • integrate regression self tests with the make file
  • improve speller test bench
  • integrate the ccat speller testing options in the make file
  • fix internet setup for Per-Eric's satelite modem
  • look over the Bugzilla status mails
  • ask Xerox for a commercial lisense for the xfst tools on the G5
  • check with Sámi publishing houses whether support for CS2 is still needed
  • publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta
  • study the Hunspell formalism in detail
  • fix bugs!

Steinar

iCal

  • Beta testing: Align manually (shorter texts)
  • Manually mark speller test texts for typos (making them into gold standards), add the texts to the orig/catalogue
  • Complete the semantic sets in sme-dis.rle
  • missing lists
  • fix bugs!

Thomas

iCal

  • work with compounding
  • fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case o
  • test new speller for actios of 3-sybbable verbs and adverbs of 3-s adjs.
  • fix bugs!

Tomi

iCal

  • make PLX conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file
  • integrate the ccat speller testing options in the Makefile
  • open up compounding for all actios
  • contact Finnish institutions about the speller beta release
  • study the Hunspell formalism in detail
  • add Hunspell data generation/conversion
  • fix bugs!

Trond

iCal

  • Work on the web corpus issues
  • update the smj proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt
  • fix bugs!.